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Diff between the ICETOOl and SYNCTOOL
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Diff between the ICETOOl and SYNCTOOL Reply with quote

HI,
May i know the difference between using the ICEtool and Synctool, Is there any performance issue?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

INIYA,

Please search before posting. This has been discussed many times. Check this link

http://www.mvsforums.com/helpboards/viewtopic.php?t=2275&highlight=icetool+synctool

http://www.mvsforums.com/helpboards/viewtopic.php?t=1530&highlight=icetool+synctool

http://www.mvsforums.com/helpboards/viewtopic.php?t=2504&highlight=icetool+synctool

Hope this helps...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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May i know the difference between using the ICEtool and Synctool

If you have the latest SyncSort for z/OS maintenance, we support all the ICETOOL functions. If you are experiencing a problem using SYNCTOOL, please feel free to contact me and I would be happy to assist you further.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amargulies wrote:

If you have the latest SyncSort for z/OS maintenance, we support all the ICETOOL functions. If you are experiencing a problem using SYNCTOOL, please feel free to contact me and I would be happy to assist you further.


amargulies,


1. Does syncsort support Parse,sqz,JFY and &Daten-r ?
2. If we are talking about ICETOOL functions does syncsort support Floating point display on DISPLAY operand?
3. How do we determine if we have the latest version of syncsort?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amargulies:
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SyncSort Product Services
Mainframe Support


wow... I friend of mine (SyncSort fan and retired now) would have enjoyed a lot having you here...(not totally true as he was a member of another forum)...

Nice to see support from SyncSort...though imNho this should have happened some YEARS ago...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amargulies,

While we are at it what about the documentation of synctool?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. Does syncsort support Parse,sqz,JFY and &Daten-r ?
2. If we are talking about ICETOOL functions does syncsort support Floating point display on DISPLAY operand?
3. How do we determine if we have the latest version of syncsort?

Koluso,

&Daten-r has been available for many years. The PARSE, SQZ, and JFY dfsort functions will available soon.

In regards to the ICETOOL functions, it was our intention to be completely compatible. It appears that we missed one - Floating Point. We are working on it and it will be available soon as well.

The release of SyncSort that a shop is running should post in the message header of the sort job. The current release is SyncSort for z/OS 1.2.2.3.

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While we are at it what about the documentation of synctool?

Up until now, there has been no SYNCTOOL documentation other than the SYNCTOOL Messages. This too will change shortly. It is already being worked on.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Koluso, &Daten-r has been available for many years.


amargulies,

I am NOT talking about &DATEn-r on include/omit parms. I am talking about the parm on INREC/OUTREC. check this topic.

http://www.mvsforums.com/helpboards/viewtopic.php?t=7439&highlight=date1

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am NOT talking about &DATEn-r on include/omit parms. I am talking about the parm on INREC/OUTREC. check this topic.

Kolusu,

Ah, in that case, it is coming shortly and should be available in the next release as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the record, note that all of these functions and others not mentioned have been available with z/OS DFSORT V1R5 and DFSORT R14 since April, 2006.

Complete documention on DFSORT's ICETOOL has been available since 1991!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and what about the JOIN feature of SyncSort? is it or will it be available in DFSORT?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IBM does NOT pre-announce function.

Note that DFSORT's ICETOOL has had the SPLICE function for join and match operations since Feb, 2003.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alissa,

When Syncsort will implement its z/VM product with the same features available with MVS ? Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alain,

With the recent zVM announcement, our development group is reviewing the impact on SyncSort CMS.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alissa,

That's a very good info.

Do you know when the new version will be available ?

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